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    AlpeR adlı üyenin avatarı
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    Declaration

    DECLARATION OF

    "THE GROUP OF RETIRED AMBASSADORS IN ANKARA AND ISTANBUL"

    ON ARMENIAN CLAIMS OF "GENOCIDE"


    According to the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide of 9 December 1948, genocide is a crime under International Law. This crime can only be committed by real persons. Only a competent tribunal can determine whether this crime is committed or not. The tribunal in charge, is either the tribunal of the State in the territories of which the act was committed or an international penal tribunal as may have jurisdiction with respect to those Contracting Parties which have accepted its jurisdiction. The tribunal in charge should recognize the defendant's right to defend himself or herself and examine the case whether

    the crime has been committed or not, and thereby decides accordingly as it sees fit. Without the existence of such a decision of the tribunal in charge, the crime of genocide cannot be established "de jure" and a genocide claim cannot be put forward or defended on legal grounds.

    No national parliament, no national senate, local or municipal council, no individual or association, none of the organs of an international or regional organisations or an undesignated court, "in lieu" of a competent court, can have the power to decide on a genocide claim, on whether the crime has been committed or not.

    The above mentioned the UN Genocide Convention is the indivisible part and parcel of the Turkish legal system.

    No party or persons should expect the Turkish Government to disregard this international convention and without resort to a competent court decision, to label certain persons with the crime of genocide, many of whom may not be alive any longer. Today not only the Turkish Government but also the Government of the UK has already declared publicly through their government spokesman that the events of 1915 cannot be described as "genocide".

    Those people who realize that their genocide claims about the 1915 tragedy are devoid of any legal base, are now trying to substantiate their claims from a political point and as a "political genocide". Political views of political organs or politicians and their political reasons are of interest

    only to them. But it is categorically unacceptable to allow political prejudices to purport such a crime.

    The purpose of such behaviour is explicit. The leaders of the Republic of Armenia, in addition to the occupied territories of Azerbaijan, openly designate Eastern Anatolia of Turkey as "Western Armenia" and make no secret of their national goal "that one day when conditions are more propitious these lands will become part of their dream of greater Armenia".

    Much has been written about the tragic events of 1915, before and after the decision to relocate Ottoman Armenians to the South East of the State. The historic documents denote that Armenian militant units lead by the Armenian members of the Ottoman Parliament rushed to the province of Van, slaughtering the local Muslim population, provoking a large scale rebellion in the Eastern part of the Ottoman State.

    In the peace negotiations at Sevres which took place in 1920, participating Armenians demanded that they should be accorded officially "a belligerent party status" during the war. While these realities stand, those who support the Armenian demands cannot be allowed to read and interpret certain pages of history partially at their own discretion, and at the expense of other pages of history cannot be claimed against neither the Turkish nationals or against the Turkish government.

    The best proof on this subject is the fact that the Allies of the First World War, which occupied the capital of the defeated Ottoman Empire, exiled to the Island of Malta, a group of purported Ottoman offenders against the Armenians in spite of their access to all the sources they had in their hands, they could not find any clue to condemn but declared them innocent of any wrongdoing. Nevertheless, the Ottoman State punished some of the Ottoman officials as perpetrators against the Armenians and found them guilty of crimes or because of improper execution of the rules, during the forced relocations.

    There are thousands and thousands of historic documents, full of contradictions about these tragic events, eye witness accounts, analysis and interpretations. To analyze the question in an objective manner is unfortunately obstructed or prevented by Armenian politicians, historians

    and their supporters. They are not even ready to talk over the existing historic documents. What they demand is the undisputed recognition of their own claims and dogma by others.

    It is not realistic to expect from the surviving relatives of the tragedy of 1915 or what has taken place in the beginning of the XX th century, to accept that nothing has happened. These events can in no way be defended. However it would be impious to forego some while mourning others.

    We believe that these deep wounds created by these sad events should not be rubbed in and deepened by acts of terror and be provoked by feelings of revenge. What has to be done now is to take lesson from these sad events in history and not to provoke again the feelings of hate which prevent peace between the Turks and the Armenians, but to start with steps forward, to strengthen the friendship between the Armenian and Turkish nations, which have so many
    common cultural traits that they share. There is no doubt that Turkish Armenians can play a part in the building and strengthening of this bridge of friendship. In a period when serious efforts are being made to keep the cultural ties alive between the Turks and Armenians, certain parliamentarians and other personalities abroad, who are alien to the issue and burdened with political bias or act with racial instincts, devoid of any in dept analysis or legal base of the crime of genocide, to purport one sided claims of crime, is in no way conducive to the desired rapprochement between the Turks and the Armenians.

    We, sincerely invite international public opinion, to think and rethink, with all the aspects of the issue, and not to be partial, on the assumption of responsibility of this tragedy, bearing also in mind the beloved memory of the innocent victims, including 34 Turkish diplomats and the members of their families, so mercilessly assassinated.

    Let there be a culture of peace, to replace the culture of hate between the Turks and the Armenians.


    Ankara, 25 March 2005

    Beni övme sözlerini bırakınız. Gelecek için neler yapacağız, onları söyleyiniz !
    MUSTAFA KEMAL



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    MAGNIFICIENT adlı üyenin avatarı
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    I agree with them. Happy is he who says I am TURK.
    Hey Americans! You must know that ther is no genocide in Anotolia and it would not be at any time.
    But you must remember and not forget Indians. If you wonder any genocide you must invstigate your history.
    Sen Türk'ü Türk yurtlarını koru !..
    “ Türkiye Cumhuriyeti’ni kuran millete ırk ve din ayırmaksızın Türk milleti denir. ”

    Mustafa Kemal Atatürk



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    Emporio Armani adlı üyenin avatarı
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    Şimdi buraya Türkçemi İngilizcemi yazacağız çözemedim neyse bi arkadaş ingilizce girmiş devam edeyim

    I agree with you MAGNIFICIENT,if there is a genocide it is in Americas history,remember Hiroshima remember Nagazaki and remember what you had done to african-americans,also dont forget what you did in Iraq,remember the kids died because of bombs,remember the innocent civilians which you tortured,and you are calling this Genocide?!
    EMPORIO ARMANI


    "God is dead" Nietzsche

    "Nietzsche is dead" God


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    Misafir SlamDunk adlı üyenin avatarı
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    every1 knows the truth infact....
    the real genocide in the past, america made it....
    they wanna put turkey in dock with an "unreal" genocide...
    america made it in the time
    they murdered lots of red-indians, in the north of america...
    or in japan, maybe...
    but now, america, settled those red-indians with money..
    maybe we must do that, too..
    but why?
    did we murdered armenians?
    absoulately, no....
    we cant prove this,, but workin' on this

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    Alıntı SlamDunk tarafından gönderildi.
    every1 knows the truth infact....
    the real genocide in the past, america made it....
    they wanna put turkey in dock with an "unreal" genocide...
    america made it in the time
    they murdered lots of red-indians, in the north of america...
    or in japan, maybe...
    but now, america, settled those red-indians with money..
    maybe we must do that, too..
    but why?
    did we murdered armenians?
    absoulately, no....
    we cant prove this,, but workin' on this
    Umm actually I don't think US is responsible for these allegations, considering that US was in isolation until WWII and hardly had any interests in Europe or Anatolia. However, as I have mentioned many times, the American attitude is shaped by the strong Armenian lobbies there.

    It's them French people who complicate things, those frog eating, stuck-up bastards conviniently "forget" about the events in Algeria during the 1950's. Yet, they still prod us with this "genocide" nonsense. Anyway, no genocide or mass murders etc ever occured, only some Armenians, who were being deported to Syria, died because of logistic problems, famine and exposure to military conflict (unleashed by arabs and russians).

 

 

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